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Interview with Malcolm Eden of McCarthy januari 22, 2007

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”Oh, human life, we would like to value it / But if there’s no profit in it, what’s the point?”

Few persons have had the ability to say as much in two minutes as Malcolm Eden did with his lyrics during his time as vocalist and songwriter for the British janglepopsters McCarthy. From the first single, ‘In Purgatory’ (1986), to the last, ‘Get A Knife Between Your Teeth’ (1990), his lyrics boiled with anti-capitalistic propaganda. But despite the often very aggressive lyrics, McCarthy managed to make wonderful, ultra-melodic jangle pop that in some strange way fitted Eden’s lyrics like a hand in a glove.

McCarthy were formed by Malcolm Eden (vocals, guitar), Tim Gane (guitar) and John Williamson (bass) when they were about 14 years old and were at school in Barking just outside London (the same school protest singer Billy Bragg attended, by the way).

”I could play a little guitar because my brother taught me, so I taught Tim to play the guitar and John the bass” Malcolm tells me in his first interview about the band in a decade. ” We had trouble finding a drummer. I think Gary joined in 1984. He made a big difference because he was technically much better than the rest of us. At that time, just after punk, when the first Rough Trade records came out, it didn’t seem very important to us to be technically proficient. It never did.”

When you are 14 years old, you often don’t have strong political views, and that was the case with the boys in McCarthy (which by the way was called something else from the start, but Malcolm can’t remember the name. The name McCarthy was meant as a joke, taken from the American politician Joe McCarthy, who started a witch-hunt against communists in the USA in the nineteen fifties) . They were influenced by punk, most of all The Sex Pistols, but they also played Buzzcocks-songs because they were easy to play.

But in 1979 when Malcolm was 16 years old, Margaret Thatcher first became Prime Minister of Britain, an event that would change his view of the world forever.

” She had a very forceful way of putting her arguments. Nobody in the opposition really had an answer to her. That’s why she kept winning elections in fact. To find a good answer to the Tories, you had to go to the root of the matter. That’s what got me interested in Marxism.”

In 1986, the band took their saved money and recorded a single on their own label, Wall Of Salmon. The single was called’ In Purgatory’, and had a limited edition of exactly 456 copies,. That single now costs between fifty and sixty pounds if you ever see it up for sale.

”We sent our record to a record label called Pink. They signed us up and started to get us gigs. After C86 and Red Sleeping Beauty it was always easy to get gigs. Even abroad. I loved playing in other countries. People were always very kind to us.”

That C86-cassette, released by the New Musical Express and Rough Trade in 1986, proved to be important, not only for McCarthy, but to guitarbased indiepop in general (See Tommy Gunnarsson’s recent feature on the whole C86 movement in the Archives section of this magazine for more details about this cassette-Ed) . Bands like The Pastels and The Shop Assistants would be forever associated with the genre that was named after the cassette. McCarthy also contributed to this tape with one track ‘Celestial City.’

”We were very lucky to be on the C86 cassette. It’s what first got us attention. Musically we were pretty similar to those bands. I think our general attitude was a bit different though.”

Usually Tim would write the chords and record them on a four-track, and then Malcolm would add the bass and melody.

”Gary did the drums, although Tim and I used to give him suggestions. I put the lyrics on last. Some of the songs I wrote on my own, like ‘Frans Hals.’

Malcolm is still satisfied with the lyrics he wrote back then, but he thinks that he might have written some things a bit more elegantly.

”But I still think a lot of them are quite pertinent and funny. Although naturally I wouldn’t say the same things the same way today. Not because I’ve changed my mind, but because the world has changed. The other members were always very supportive. They agreed with the general tendency in my lyrics, I think. I had a few big arguments with Gary about politics. But generally we were all on the same wavelength.”

After the C86-compilation, Pink released the first ”real” McCarthy single, ‘Red Sleeping Beauty’, which was a poetic stab at the Thatcher regime. In the song, Malcolm sings that he has been sound asleep for twenty years and that ”she won’t wake me”. But above all, the song has one of the best intros of the popmusic history, an intro that during a mere minute goes from a few simple guitar chords to a cacaphony of guitars and rolling drums. The B-side isn’t bad either. ‘From The Damned is probably the roughest song the band ever recorded (in competition with ‘In Purgatory’), with Baker’s drums once again the focus.

McCarthy didn’t stay very long with the Pink Label. Their second single, the aforementioned ‘ Frans Hals’, was their last for the label, and their next stop would be new label September Records, who released the classic ‘The Well Of Loneliness’ as a single in October 1987, a single that ended up in the British Indie Charts’ Top Ten (‘Frans Hals’ actually came in at Number 4). The same month, the long awaited debut album, ‘I Am A Wallet’, was also released, containing short, fast songs that could be read individually as a political manifesto. Titles as ‘The Provession Of Popular Capitalism’, ‘The Wicked Palace Revolution’ and ‘The International Narcotics Traffic’ speak for themselves. But the record didn’t sell very well, and in an interview for Swedish fanzine ‘Sound Affects’ at the time of ‘I Am A Wallet’, Malcolm said that the band was ignored, something that he doesn’t agree with today:

” I don’t remember saying that, and I’m not sure if I agree today. We were only a little group, but we got quite a lot of attention. In the beginning, all we aimed at was to make a record and play some concerts. Everything else was a bonus.”

Despite the setbacks (?), the band continued to be productive, and as soon as February 1988, a new 12″ single hit the shelves, with a new song called ‘This Nelson Rockefeller’ as its lead track. On the B-side re-recordings of three old songs (‘The Funeral’, ‘The Way Of The World’ and ‘The Fall’) could be found, plus one more new song, ‘The Enemy Is At Home (For The Fat Lady)’. But why did they record two songs from ‘I Am A Wallet’ just months after its release?

”We didn’t re-record the songs because we disliked the originals. I think we did it at the suggestion of our manager, who wanted to put out two singles one after the other, very quickly (‘This Nelson Rockefeller’ and ‘Should The Bible Be Banned?’). We didn’t have enough songs for B-sides, so we redid some older songs. It was partly to experiment with drum-machines and keyboards. Up until that moment a lot of the ”indie” people really liked us, but they saw this move to re-record songs as the Ultimate Betrayal. Notably the people who did the Sarah record label in particular.”

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Only two months later, another 12″ single was released, the foresaid ‘Should The Bible Be Banned?’ The title track questionsif the Bible encourages murder. Eden sings of a person named Dave who has just killed his brother with an axe, and finds support in the Bible’s story of Cain and Abel for his crime. Finally, he sings ”should the bible be banned / to keep the peace”.

Then it took almost a year until we heard from McCarthy again, this time with a new single ‘Keep An Open Mind Or Else’, the band’s first release on Midnight Music. The single was a taster from the album ‘The Enraged Will Inherit The Earth’, which was released in March 1989. Now the band had a new producer, Ian Caple, and despite the album being more polished than the debut, it doesn’t feel as brilliant as the first album.’ I Am A Wallet’ had a kind of unproduced feeling, something that really fitted McCarthy’s music, and now that they had a more producer-type producer,something was missing. But that isn’t to say it’s bad, no not at all. Here we find masterpieces such as ‘Governing Takes Brains’, ‘Throw Him Out He’s Breaking My Heart’ and ‘Boy Meets Girl So What’. Malcolm agrees with my feelings about their second album.

”Some of the songs on the second album were badly done. I prefer the first and last albums. We were very happy with ‘We Are All Bourgeois Now’ (the song the Manic Street Preachers covered), and some of the songs on the last album were quite well done, I think. I like’ I Worked My Self Up From Nothing.’ We could have recorded most of the songs a lot better though. I don’t think I was a very good singer either, to be frank.”

I really must say that I can’t agree with the last thing Malcolm mentions. Personally, I think Malcolm has (had?) a very pleasant voice, which was not at all bombastic like many other indiepop singers at that time in the UK. In other words, it is a voice that can never annoy you.

Only a month or so after the second album was released, a new single reached the stores. This time it’ was an EP with the name ‘McCarthy At War’. On the EP, there’s a remixed version of ‘Boy Meets Girl So What’, plus three new songs, of which ‘All Your Questions Answered’ probably is the best, with a superb guitarhook, and Malcolm singing ”who destroyed our industry? / who can tell me that? / the Germans swamped the market with their German products”.In ‘The Lion Will Lie Down With The Lamb’ he asks all the global industry corporations (he mentions IBM and General Motors) to move away from South Africa, so that the people there can be free.

Now the band started to feel that they couldn’t achieve much more, and a split up was not very far away. But despite this, they released what was to be their last album in April 1990, ‘Banking, Violence And The Inner Life Today’. By this time the band had also been joined by Laetitia Sadier, a fan that had hooked up with Tim during a tour in France. They became a couple, and she got to sing in his band. On ‘Banking, Violence… the production was even more polished, but this time they made a better job out of it. Kevin Harris, in co-operation with the band, managed to create a sound that fitted their songs perfectly. The album also found the band taking a big step with their songwriting. The songs developed very long titles (such as ‘I’m In The Side Of Mankind As Much As The Next Man; and ‘Tomorrow The Stock Exchange Will Be The Human Race’) and they also had longer durations. Many of the songs are more than four minutes long, which was very rare in the early days of the band. McCarthy’s last single, ‘Get A Knife Between Your Teeth’, is also featured on the album and it is a song that has a production that is very characteristic of the period. This was a time when Happy Mondays and The Stone Roses were very popular, and McCarthyjoined the Madchester-wave for this one song only, with baggy drums, wah-wah guitars and everything else that was part of the scene. Maybe it was a attempt at a hit single, maybe not. It didn’t turn out very well though, and shortly afterwards, after a final gig at the London School of Economics (something that according to Malcolm was just a coincidence), the band decided to quit.

Tim and Laetitia formed Stereolab, and also started their own label, Duophonic, a label that as well as nearly all Stereolab’s records also released two records (one 7″ single, and a 10″ minialbum) by Herzfeld. Behind that pseudonym was none other than Malcolm Eden.

”If possible, Herzfeld’s records were even more badly recorded than McCarthy’s records. I tried to use keyboards as well as guitars. They weren’t very dance-orientated however. It wasn’t that different from McCarthy.”

When you read about McCarthy’s split-up, it always says that they were tired of being ignored, but that isn’t the full story, according to Malcolm:

”I think the others would have carried on a bit longer. I didn’t want to though. I had the impression at the time that we’d reached a plateau in terms of audience and our songs, and we weren’t advancing. We could naturally have carried on, repeating ourselves over and over again, but that would have been terrible, Plus, although there weren’t any tensions between us, the fact that Laetitia had more or less joined the group for the last tour did break up our former cohesion a little bit.”

”I’m glad we stopped when we did. I think pop music is basically for young people and not for fifty-year-olds. I know some fifty-year-olds do carry on, but it’s hardly ever a good idea.”

There was a rumour on the Internet that Malcolm had become a gardener in Paris after the split, but he says it’s just a joke made up by Tim. He has in fact never gardened in his life. What John and Gary did after the split isn’t part of the story, but Malcolm says that he only has contact with John, who he meets a couple of times a year. He hasn’t seen Tim and Gary for five years. John works at the music publisher BMG in London, and he thinks Gary works at a book publisher, and as far as he knows they don’t play music anymore.

There are actually two McCarthy songs recorded during the ‘Banking, Violence…’-sessions, but they were never mixed, and therefore never released.

”John and Tim thought they weren’t good enough to go on the compilation [‘That’s All Very Well But…’, released by Cherry Red in 1996]. One was called ‘Who Will Rid Me Of These Turbulent Proles?’ I was really pleased with it. It was one of my best lyrics. It’s recorded but not mixed unfortunately, so it’s a bit rough. The other was a joke disco song that Tim did. It’s called ‘You Had To Go And Open Your Big Mouth’. Laetitia sings a few lines on it. We had very long titles towards the end. It’s in a fairly rough condition too.”

Some people thinks that bands like The Manic Street Preachers have taken over McCarthy’s place in pop music, so I had to ask Malcolm what he thinks of them.

”I’m afraid I don’t know the Manic Street Preachers very well, although I’ve heard the two songs ‘Charles Windsor’ and ‘We Are All Bourgeois Now’) of ours they’ve done, of course. I can’t see too many groups with the same kind of attitude as ours. But perhaps I just don’t know them.”

He also tells me that hardly ever buys records nowadays, and that music has lost it’s meaning for him.

”I buy classical records sometimes. I like Bach very much. My wife bought the last Madonna album, so I had to listen to that quite a lot.”

Instead, Malcolm says that the lyrics remain the most important to him, and he tells me that he has written a book that hopefully will be out on 2002.

”The book is about a woman who discovers an unusual amount of dog mess all over the town where she lives. She spends the book trying to find out why there’s so much of it and where it’s all coming from. This was partly inspired by life in Paris, which is certainly the dog mess capital of the world, although naturally they don’t mention this in the guide books.”

He is also writing a second one right now. But what authors does he admire?

”I like Bertholt Brecht, Jaroslav Hasek, Karl Marx, Shakespeare and Diderot a lot.”

He also says that he sadly doesn’t have any outflow for his views except his books.

Speaking of the views, are they the same as they were 15 years ago?

”Yes. Although I try to develop my opinions in interaction with what is going on around me. It would be foolish to carry on repeating what was said fifteen years ago, since the world has moved on. I don’t know if you have extreme left-wing parties in Sweden, but the mistake they make in France and Britain is to carry on repeating the old line, as if the world hadn’t changed out of recognition in the meantime.”

”I think today the most important thing is to stand up for politics in a general sense – the idea that people can change the world. I have nothing in common with the people who demonstrated in Seattle, for instance. I don’t think they want to kick the world forwards, but kick it backwards. They’re not really in favour of progress or reason. Quite the contrary. If I wrote songs today they would be taking the piss out of homeopathy, environmentalist doom-mongering, animal rights, and standing up for reason and the human race.”

In the lyrics Malcolm wrote for McCarthy he often spoke of the subject of anti-capitalism, and in one song he almost goes too far. The song is called ‘Use A Bank I’d Rather Die’ and is available on the ‘Banking, Violence…’ album. There he sings ”We won’t use cash, no, no, no / we let no cash soil our hands” and that he would rather give his money to charity. This made me a little curious; did Malcolm live and learn, or was he just acting?

”Almost all of the McCarthy songs are sung by a ”character”, like a character in a play. I often don’t agree with the sentiments expressed in the song, quite the reverse. This is the case for ‘Use A Bank I’d Rather Die’. People sometimes used to accuse us of compromising. They assumed that anyone with political principles can’t possibly compromise at any time. Which I don’t agree with at all. If your general position is advanced by a compromise, then it can be a good thing. This is more or less what that song is about. I think the character in the song refuses all compromise and ends up in all kinds of hopeless contradictions.”

But what did you do with the money you earned?

”We didn’t get very much I’m afraid. We all signed on the dole and used the McCarthy money to buy books and records and so on. We never got any advances from anyone. But I still get a little bit of money today, because Cherry Red re-released all our albums. But as you might imagine, this isn’t much. The money we should get from The Manic Street Preachers’ cover will certainly be a lot more than anything from our own records.”

Finally I asked Malcolm if he ever listens to McCarthy nowadays.

”Not very often. When I do listen though, I sometimes wince, and say to myself ”We could have done that better” or ”We should have changed that bit”. But I also think some of the songs, with all their faults, are quite exciting. They sometimes make me laugh too, when I hear a funny line that I’ve forgotten about.”

And a reunion seems very unlikely…

”This is a highly unlikely scenario, I think you’ll agree. I think it’s a bit sad when old groups get back together. The Sex Pistols, The Buzzcocks, The Beatles, etc. People do these reunions either for money or else to relive their lost youth, I should say. Either way it’s a bit pathetic.”

Well, a McCarthy reunion seem a bit unlikely, I’ll have to agree. And unnecessary. The band recorded three wonderful albums and a bunch of brilliant singles during their lifetime, and I think I can cope with that. But maybe my neighbours would like to hear something new…

 

Interview with Stuart Moxham of Young Marble Giants oktober 5, 2006

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ymg.gif If you have ever heard the Young Marble Giants, I’m sure that you won’t have forgotten the experience. In the three years in which they were together between 1978 and 1981, they recorded just one album ‘Colossal Youth’ and a handful of singles. There are few other bands, however, that have ever managed to sound so fresh and original, or been such a seminal influence on so many musicians during the last two decades. They proved that you can create great pop music with very few ingredients. Mostly they just used a drum machine and a bass guitar to back up singer Alison Statton’s sweet, fragile voice. Maybe, however you don’t know very much about this Cardiff trio, so we at Pennyblackmusic thought that we might help you out a bit. We have for you, therefore, an interview with guitarist, organist and songwriter Stuart Moxham.

How and when did you become interested in music?
– Does anyone have a choice about becoming interested in music? It surrounds all of us from day one, surely?

What kind of music did you grow up with?
– My parents are music lovers – in fact my father is a singer. They are also church goers, so we were raised with hymns, carols, Gilbert & Sullivan, Lerner & Loewe, classical music, the radio of the ’50’s, and then eventually all the hits of the 60’s and 70’s. I have an elder brother who was in the Royal Navy and brought home an early stereo from the Far East and also had a brilliant record collection. I remember singing ‘Twist and Shout’ (the Beatles’ version) in Gladstone Junior school playground. It seemed then as though the Beatles had a new single out every week. I dug the Stones, too -grew my hair long in the early ’70’s – you get the picture.

Did you play in any other bands prior to Young Marble Giants?
– I was introduced to playing guitar by my friend Matthew Davis who later formed a group, playing covers, called True Wheel in which I was the singer and second guitarist. My brother Phil was the bassist. We played regularly for a while in Cardiff.

How did Young Marble Giants form?
– True Wheel faded away and, after an abortive attempt to collaborate in a second group with Phil, I decided to form my own group, to do my own songs. I invited Phil to join me in my new venture and he told me he’d teamed up with Alison, a backing singer in True Wheel, and that they were now a musical unit. I therefore took them both onboard.

What were your influences?
– Some of my personal major ones were: Beatles/Cat Stevens/Led Zeppelin/Neil Young/Early Roxy Music/Eno/Eno/Eno/Kraftwerk/Steve Miller/Police/Bob Marley etc.

Where does the name Young Marble Giants come from? On the ‘Final Day’ 7″ sleeve there is an excerpt from a dictionary. Does it come from that?
– It comes from a book about classical sculpture. We’d given up trying to find the name – one idea was the Clones – but even then it was too obvious. Then I was flicking through this book which was Alison’s and saw the sentence with those three words and thought it was perfect.

Why didn’t you use a ”real” drummer in Young Marble Giants?
– Have you ever met any real drummers? No, seriously, we’d only worked with one previously and he was a pain in the arse and had a lot of heavy gear which we had to carry. Plus drum machines were so sexy then. We wanted everything easy – why make work? Plus we were anti traditional rock/record production/arrangements – we wanted our great riffage to be unadorned – it didn’t need tom toms, cymbals, and some hairyback trying to write songs on his drum kit!

Did you have any goals with Young Marble Giants?
– Er, just a few…to get a record deal and therefore to get the hell out of Cardiff, which was the capital of a musical wasteland; to become necessarily famous and generally fulfil the rock’n’roll dream. To avoid a straight career at all costs. I’ve subsequently discovered that I’m useless at most jobs anyway. I was made to write songs, man!

young-marble-giants-colossal-youth-353154.jpgHow did the music press react to your records back in those days?
– Very favourably – we had reviews to die for. Of course there are always a few fuckwits who don’t get it but luckily none of them were in the music press!

Why did you split up?
– The usual undiscussed reasons. Tired and emotional bollocks, ego, and so on

After the Young Marble Giants split, you formed the Gist. What was that? Was that your solo project?
– Basically yes. I wanted to have a name that sounded like a group and I liked ‘The Gist’. I included various musical friends as well as my brother, Andrew, who is the person I have played and recorded with by far the most of anyone.

You also produced the second Marine Girls album ‘Lazy Ways’ in 1983. How did you get to do that? Did you know Dan Treacy (The Television Personalities frontman was helping to promote the group at the time) or any of the Girls?
– Cherry Red records rang. I didn’t know of them at the time so I asked for a tape and liked it immediately – it was so refreshing to hear love songs from the female perspective.

Today, the Welsh music scene is very much alive, but what was it like in the early 80’s?
– It seemed that nobody in living memory had ”made it.” The music industry could not have been less interested in Wales and confidence was always zero among young groups. You had to be in London or Liverpool. Or Scotland. Or anywhere. The English hate the Welsh because the Welsh are soulful, passionate Celts. The English find all that messy and soppy because they don’t have soul. Same thing with the Irish, the Scots, you name it. The English have enormous self belief and arrogance, aggression and thick skins. Everything you need to get on in life and found an Empire! Having said that I choose to live in England and enjoy the subtlety and unflappability, the coolness of southern Englishness. Life’s a mystery. Thank God. All the best things in life are unsolvable mysteries. Science is limited. End of ramble!

What do you think when you listen to those old records now?
– I almost never do but of course it’s intensely personal for me if I do. I can see the merit in them and I love them. They are like old friends.

What is your favourite YMG song?
– ‘Nita’

What are you doing nowadays? Are you still making music?
– I live in a cottage in an old village in deeply rural England. I am married with three young children and I pay the bills by being a driving instructor. I have a studio at home and am trying to get to grips with producing my music on my own CDR label, hABIT records, for release via the Internet. (Watch http://www.appelstein.com/ymg/ for developments but don’t hold your breath.) I play gigs, if I’m asked and if I’m paid, so that means virtually never! I play covers for a theraputic/spiritual event each Friday evening at a drug and drink rehab clinic. I am in a band of church bell ringers locally. I sometimes pick up a guitar and play half a song before rushing off, usually to do something less enjoyable. But then what isn’t? Hope springs eternal and I still cling to the belief that a) there is justice in this world and b) if I stick at it, one day I’ll have a huge hit or three and go back to being a full time musician/recordist. Sad, really, but we must have our dreams to prevent reality from doing our heads in.

young-marble-giants.jpgWhat are the other two members doing now?
– I’m not the best person to ask – all I know is that Alison has been a chiropractor in Cardiff for years and Phil currently looks after polo ponies at his rural home outside that city.

I read somewhere that you worked on the Roger Rabbit movie. Is that true?
– Check the credits (Writer’s note: I have, and according to imdb.com, he was a painter during the production of the film.)

Have you thought about a reunion? I read something about a reunion of sorts at the Rough Trade anniversary last year…
– Constantly, for years, but with no enthusiasm from the others it was too much like hard work. It just ate away at me. I came close a couple of times and last year’s Rough Trade gig was the closest. I’ve given up now. Big shame because I know we could produce more shitkicking music if only the will was there. Life gets in the way though.

What is the single greatest moment in your music career?
– Tough question. There have been so many great moments, especially great gigs. Perhaps the summer of ’93 when I recorded three consecutive albums, one in London (‘Random Rules’) and two in Chicago (‘Barbara Manning Sings With The Original Artists’ and ‘Plan A’ – although that one has never been released.)

If you had the chance, what would you have done differently with the Young Marble Giants career?
– Taken a step back and not stupidly let it dissolve. Treat it as a professional occupation rather than a vehicle for my hang-ups.

What do you listen to now?
– My own stuff as I record it, plus old chart music on Radio 2 because local radio stations, outside London, are shite. I don’t know why.

 

Interview with Chris Zither of The Essex Green

Filed under: Intervjuer — lacewings @ 8:36 f m

essexgreen_band2.jpgIf you were to make a family tree with all the bands that the three core members of the Essex Green are involved with, it would make a pretty large tree. We have Sixth Great Lake, the Ladybug Transister, Finishing School… well, you see for yourself. But now, Christopher Zither, Jeff Baron and Sasha Bell have taken some time to record their third album as the Essex Green, ‘Cannibal Sea’, the follow-up to the fantastic ‘The Long Goodbye’, that was released back in 2003.
Pennyblackmusic tracked down Chris from the band, and chatted to him about the band’s musical history and his thoughts about the new record among other things…

How did you get into music? When did you start playing an instrument? What kind of music did you grow up with?
– I grew up in a household without much musical taste. I seem to remember a lot of bad musical soundtracks and cheesy things like ‘Hooked On Classics’. I started on the clarinet when I was around 10 years old because my mum was convinced it was the easiest instrument to learn on… that may be true but the collection and cleaning of spit always grossed me out. I always wanted to play the piano. I taught myself on a cheap little Casio several years later… plucking out tunes from TV shows like ‘Cheers’, ‘Hill Street Blues’ and ‘Charlie Brown’. Once I got into high school my instrument was my voice. I was in any and all the singing groups that existed in the school: musicals, madrigals, choirs, and barbershops. I learned the guitar in university when I first met Jeff Baron. That was 15 years ago.


How did The Essex Green come about? I understand you formed the band after your earlier band Guppyboy split up.
– Essex Green came directly out of Guppyboy. It was born out of a move from Vermont to New York City. One member of Guppyboy, Zack Ward, didn’t want to move. Once that became clear, we decided we were going to start another group and rearrange things a bit. The personnel changed and the sound changed.

What were your major influences when you started out, and how have they changed over the years?
 Um… well, when we were starting out we listened to the Zombies, the Kinks, Dylan, Fairport Convention, Os Mutantes and a lot of Elephant 6 bands… it’s moved through a number of phases over time. Everyone listens to slightly differently things now. Nowadays we are listening to a bit more country music… some folk music.

essexgreen_band1.jpgHow do you write the songs in The Essex Green. Is it a team effort, or do you write on your own? And what comes first – the lyrics or the music?
– We all write separately nearly 100% of the time. The process is probably quite different with each person and even with each song. I personally tend to write the music first. But some lyrics may guide the direction of a compositon from the outset.

If you get to choose one song you wish you had written, which one would it be?
– Today it would have to be ‘Come On Eileen’. Could there be a better song? I challenge you…

Well, I think should be able to come up with something…
I read somewhere that you were planning a solo album. What happened with that? Is it still coming out?
– I read that too. I’m not sure what the answer to that question is. I imagine that everyone in the world is working on a solo album of some type or another… Completing a project like that is something that would take me a while to let go of…. It is much easier to set loose something into the world for inspection and digestion if you are one of many parts of the creation. To be the only name on it is a different story. Short answer – most of the songs are written and strong, but it’s going to be something that I am in no hurry to finish.

How would you describe the Essex Green to someone who have never heard you?
– 60s and 70’s inspired folk/pop. That’s my best guess.

essexgreen_live.jpgDo you have ”regular” day-time jobs, or can you make a living out of your music?
– I do freelance webdesign. Sasha works in documentary filmmaking. Jeff works in recording. Not necessarily ”regular” jobs ‘cos we need to be able to take time off for touring and recording. But the cost of living in New York does restrict how much time we can take off. We would definitely tour or record more if we could afford it. We are far away from making a living in music. The industry is one of the most financially depressed in the arts for a multitude of reasons. I could go on for hours about that but I won’t.

On your new album, you give a special ”thank you” to Sweden. I understand that you like Sweden a lot, which is mutual, as the Swedes like you guys a lot too. What do you think is the reason why you are so successful there?
– Sweden is a country that has embraced our music and had the ability to embrace it. By that I suppose I am referring to the previous answer when I talk about the state of the music industry. Sweden was a country whose national radio was able to allow smaller bands like ourselves to be played in primetime and reach people’s ears. It just doesn’t happen anywhere else that we have been to. Even your Norwegian neighbors seem to have a similar hierarchy of corporate control in the broadcast arena. It’s refreshing to be a part of a community that has the ability to reach beyond that and dig deeper into the cultural strata without such a concern over money.
Plus we have a lot of friends in Sweden and they just wouldn’t have all fitted in the space we had alloted on the album credits.
I want to believe that, were our record able to be given the same spotlight in other countries, there might be a similar reaction. I suppose what Sweden did for the Essex Green is install a bit of confidence in the fact that our music is enjoyable to larger groups outside the indie realm. That’s an exciting prospect.

What Swedish bands do you listen to? I heard that you have toured with Shout Out Louds…
– Yes… we honestly hadn’t heard much from the Shout Out Louds before we went on tour. We are now good friends and fans. Let’s see… I am a big fan of Bjorn Olson’s music. Love Is All has some members that we are friends with. It’s great to see that band is starting to take off. Swedish music is really getting some notice… that makes me feel all good inside.

essexgreen_cannibalsea.jpgYour new album is a lot less country-orientated than ‘The Last Goodbye’, apart from songs like ‘Rue de Lis’. Was this your plan, or was it just an unplanned direction of songwriting? Tell me a little about the recording of the album…
– No specific plan. There were two songs that were a bit more country that didn’t make it on the the record. We just ran out of time. They will most likely appear on the next record or an EP or something. This record was recorded in a somewhat similar fashion to ‘The Long Goodbye’. Over the course of 12 months, we recorded in many different environments with different musicians on drums and bass… as well as strings and guitars. But a larger portion of the record was completed at one studio in Manhattan called Great City Productions. This is the home studio of Britt Myers who mixed our last record. He was a bit more involved in the recording process for this record and has some amazing gear… really nice vintage amps and guitars. Jeff, who handles most of the guitar work, was loving it. The result is a record that has a similar sound to the last record but I think the production has been bumped up a notch or two because of the quality of Britt’s gear. As always, Britt did a great job mixing the record.

Would you like the Essex Green to be the biggest band in the world, or are you happy the way things are?
– I would love our music to be be played on national radio in the states like it was in Sweden. I don’t want to be a 4 tour-bus pyro-technic stadium 360-out-of-365-days-on-tour-a-year type band at all. I just would love to have our songs appear in a number of movies or play tours that might bring in enough money so that we could spend a lot more time with music than struggling to keep the Brooklyn roofs over our heads.

Finally, I must ask about the song ‘Chester’ from your first EP. Is it about a cat? And if so, is it that cat that can be heard in the song ?
– Yes and Yes.